Defeat Maicheng

所以你看,关羽这个人是个什么样的人呢?第一有德,肯定是有德了,道德高尚;第二有才,也确实是能力非同一般;第三有资历,从这三点来说他是守荆州的合适人选。但是他有一个问题,没有政治头脑,没有战略眼光。所以我看法呢,关羽是个大侠,不是大帅。他在江湖上做一个独行侠是很让人敬仰的,而且也是非常可爱的。说老实话,作为一个人,我读《三国志·关羽传》的时候我看待他蛮喜欢他,包括他把诸葛亮的信到处给人看我觉得非常可爱,回头你们看了我的节目,喜欢我的节目,给我发一个短信,我也会转发出去。蛮可爱的,不可学,可爱不可学。

那么,关羽督荆州是不是刘备用人不当呢?我觉得也不是。为什么?第一,此刻无人可选,你说不留关羽留谁?没人可留,确实没人可留。第二个呢,更重要的就是刘备的事业发展太快,组织准备不足,他没有想到自己那么轻易地就拿下了益州,拿下益州一去打汉中曹操又跑了,这个时候他完全来不及做任何的这种准备。在这个时候你想想看,他就是马上派人去荆州去把关羽换下来他也是来不及了。何况这个时候,刘备集团上上下下都陶醉在夺取益州的胜利之中,也是想不到关羽这样一位百战百胜的将军怎么会一败涂地,也是想不到的。所以,一个人也好,一个集团也好,火得太快也不是好事。

So you see, what kind of person is Guan Yu? The first virtue is definitely virtue, with noble morality; The second is talent, which is indeed extraordinary in ability; Third, he has qualifications. From these three points, he is a suitable candidate to guard Jingzhou. But he has a problem: he has no political mind and no strategic vision. So, in my opinion, Guan Yu is a great Xia, not a great commander. Being a lone ranger in the Jianghu is very admirable and very cute. To be honest, as a person, when I read “The Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms: The Biography of Guan Yu”, I looked at him and quite liked him, including showing Zhuge Liang’s letter everywhere. I thought it was very cute. Later on, you watched my program and liked it. Send me a text message, and I will forward it. Pretty cute, not to learn, cute not to learn.
So, did Guan Yu supervise Jingzhou and Liu Bei improperly appoint people? I don’t think so. Why? First, there is no one to choose at this moment. Who do you want to leave without Guan Yu? No one to stay, really no one to stay. The second and more important thing is that Liu Bei’s career has developed too quickly and his organizational preparation is insufficient. He didn’t expect to take Yizhou so easily. Once he took Yizhou, he went to fight Cao Cao in Hanzhong and ran away. At this time, he had no time to make any such preparations. At this moment, if you think about it, even if he immediately sent someone to Jingzhou to replace Guan Yu, he would be too late. Moreover, at this time, everyone in the Liu Bei Group was intoxicated with the victory of capturing Yizhou. It was also unexpected that a general like Guan Yu, who had won every battle, could have been completely defeated. Therefore, it’s not a good thing for a person or a group to get too hot.

*在谁都督荆州的问题上,易中天先生认为刘备集团也的确是无人可选,关羽是担当此任的合适人选。因此在这个问题上刘备并没有多少责任,而以关羽的能力镇守荆州是绝对没有问题的。但是关羽依然是大意失去了荆州,在这个问题上,也有人提出了不同的看法,如果刘备增派援军前去支援,或许关羽就不会有如此之败。那么,在关羽被曹操和孙权包围之时,刘备为什么不派兵救援呢?如果有援军的话,关羽还会有如此惨痛的下场吗?易中天先生对此又是如此看待的呢?

“On the question of who is in charge of Jingzhou, Mr. Yi Zhongtian believes that Liu Bei Group is indeed a no-one choice, and Guan Yu is a suitable candidate for this position.”. Therefore, Liu Bei does not have much responsibility on this issue, and there is absolutely no problem defending Jingzhou with Guan Yu’s ability. However, Guan Yu still carelessly lost Jingzhou. On this issue, some people have put forward different views. If Liu Bei sent more reinforcements to support him, perhaps Guan Yu would not have suffered such a defeat. So, when Guan Yu was surrounded by Cao Cao and Sun Quan, why didn’t Liu Bei send troops to rescue him? If there were reinforcements, would Guan Yu have such a tragic end? How does Mr. Yi Zhongtian view this?

关羽被曹操和孙权包围起来的时候,刘备为什么不救援?我的回答是六个字:想不到,来不及。吕思勉先生的《秦汉史》里面讲到这样一个观点,就是这一场战争的结果,不但是曹操没有想到的,也是孙权没有想到的,至少曹操和孙权都没有想到战争的形势转化得那么快。曹操想不到,孙权想不到,刘备就该想到?刘备也想不到。有置疑的人说,这场战争打了七个月,完全来得及派援军去啊。这个时间算错了,这七个月的前半部分都是关羽在胜利状态啊,他把樊城团团围住,眼看就要拿下来了,报回去的都是捷报,前方打胜了仗还有派援军的道理吗?一直到曹操把孙权的效忠信射进樊城和关羽的军营的时候,关羽接了信以后还不觉得自己要失败,他还不撤军嘛,他还准备把这个樊城攻下来以后再去对付孙权嘛。而且,刘备和关羽也万万没有想到,孙权,过去的老朋友、好朋友、盟友、一起打曹操的那个人会跟曹操勾结起来嘛,也想不到吕蒙会把军队化装成商人,这样悄悄地去抄他的后路,都想不到嘛。等到关羽败走麦城的时候,已经完全来不及了,信说不定都送不出去,就算送出去信又怎么样呢?刘备总不能派空降兵到麦城吧?这个时候只有直升飞机能救啊。

When Guan Yu was surrounded by Cao Cao and Sun Quan, why didn’t Liu Bei rescue him? My answer is six words: unexpected, too late. In Mr. Lv Simian’s “History of the Qin and Han Dynasties”, there is a point of view that the outcome of this war was not only unexpected to Cao Cao, but also unexpected to Sun Quan. At least neither Cao Cao nor Sun Quan expected the situation of the war to transform so quickly. Cao Cao didn’t think, Sun Quan didn’t think, should Liu Bei think? Liu Bei didn’t expect it either. Some doubters say that this war has been going on for seven months, and there is no time to send reinforcements. “This time is wrong. In the first half of the past seven months, Guan Yu was in a state of victory. He surrounded Fancheng and was about to take it down. All he reported back were good news. Is there any reason to send reinforcements after winning the battle ahead?”? Until Cao Cao shot Sun Quan’s letter of allegiance into the military camps of Fancheng and Guan Yu, Guan Yu didn’t feel like he was going to fail after receiving the letter. He didn’t want to withdraw his troops yet, and he was ready to attack Sun Quan after attacking this Fancheng. Moreover, Liu Bei and Guan Yu never imagined that Sun Quan, an old friend, good friend, ally, and the person who fought against Cao Cao together would collude with Cao Cao, or that Lv Meng would disguise the army as a merchant and secretly copy his back path. By the time Guan Yu lost Maicheng, it was completely too late. The letter said that he couldn’t even deliver it. Even if he did, what would happen? Liu Bei can’t send airborne troops to Maicheng, can he? Only helicopters can save us at this time.

这里面有一点,我也公平地说,有一点是他们应该想到的,就是你一旦拿下了益州,荆州的压力会变得空前。因为刘备有南郡,或者有江南四郡的时候,他的力量还很弱小,孙权还可以不紧张。你把蜀郡和汉中都拿下,整个长江上游都是你刘备的,孙权肯定紧张。这一点,刘备集团的人应该预料到,但是没有预料到。等到关羽丢失了自己的生命,也丢失了荆州的时候,刘备就感到紧张了。荆州是丢不得的,必须把被孙权夺去的荆州再夺回来,那么刘备又将如何动作呢?请看下集——夷陵之战。

One thing, and I’m fair to say, is that once you win Yizhou, the pressure on Jingzhou will become unprecedented. Because when Liu Bei had Nanjun or four Jiangnan prefectures, his strength was still very weak, and Sun Quan could not be nervous. “If you take both Shujun and Hanzhong, and the entire upper reaches of the Yangtze River are owned by Liu Bei, Sun Quan must be nervous.”. The people of the Liu Bei Group should have expected this, but they did not. When Guan Yu lost his life and Jingzhou, Liu Bei felt nervous. Jingzhou cannot be lost, and it must be recaptured from Jingzhou, which Sun Quan seized. So what will Liu Bei do? Please see the next episode – The Battle of Yiling.

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