第二点不同，是《三国演义》说周瑜也不是孙权召回来的，是他自己回来的，他听说曹操要顺江东下，着急，自己回来的，这是第二点不同。第三点不同，是周瑜回来以后没有马上去见孙权，而是在自己的府中接见了或者说会见了江东的文臣武将。然后这两拨人就纷纷发表不同的意见，叫做文要降，武要战，纷纷不定，而周瑜不表态，态度暧昧，等这些人走了以后周瑜冷笑。第四点不同，是周瑜在会见了这些文臣武将以后，又见了诸葛亮，而且是主张投降，这个时候才有了下面的一场戏——智激周瑜。第五点就是周瑜成为一个主战派，是诸葛亮智激的结果。
＊在《三国演义》中，东吴的军事首脑周瑜一开始并没有替孙权排忧解难，反而大唱投降论调，他最终决定主战是诸葛亮智激的结果。易中天先生对智激周瑜这个故事有四点评价：子虚乌有、形象不好、没有必要、并无可能。那么，说“智激周瑜”既无必要又无可能的根据是什么呢？
The second difference is that “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms” says that Zhou Yu was not summoned back by Sun Quan, but he came back by himself. He heard that Cao Cao was going down the river in a hurry and came back by himself. This is the second difference. The third difference is that after Zhou Yu returned, he did not immediately go to see Sun Quan. Instead, he received or met with literary officials and military generals in Jiangdong in his own mansion. Then these two groups of people expressed different opinions one after another, called “Wen wants to surrender” and “Wu wants to fight”, and they were all uncertain. However, Zhou Yu made no statement and had an ambiguous attitude. After these people left, Zhou Yu sneered. The fourth difference is that after meeting with these civil ministers and military generals, Zhou Yu met with Zhuge Liang and advocated surrender. At this time, the following scene – Zhi Ji Zhou Yu emerged. The fifth point is that Zhou Yu’s becoming a militant group was the result of Zhuge Liang’s intellectual stimulation.
In “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms”, Zhou Yu, the military leader of the Eastern Wu Dynasty, did not solve Sun Quan’s problems at first, but instead loudly sang the theme of surrender. He ultimately decided that the main battle was the result of Zhuge Liang’s intelligence. Mr. Yi Zhongtian has four comments on the story of Zhiji Zhou Yu: false, bad image, unnecessary, and impossible. So, what is the basis for saying that “intellectually motivated Zhou Yu” is neither necessary nor possible?
那么对于《三国演义》的这样一个描述我有四点评价：第一点是子虚乌有。就是整个的这个故事都是史书上没有记载的，包括吴国太这个人。吴国太是什么人呢？按照《三国演义》的说法是孙坚母亲吴夫人的妹妹和吴夫人一起嫁给孙坚的，这个事情于史无据，而且我认为在理论上也不大可能。因为吴夫人嫁给孙坚带有被迫性质，因为孙坚年轻的时候名声不是太好，而且吴家感觉他性格也不太好，不愿意嫁给他，这个时候吴姑娘出来说，不要为了一个小女子得罪这样一个强横的人物，给我们家带来灾难，我嫁给他这是命，如果嫁非所人，算我命不好，吴家这才把女儿嫁给了孙坚，她怎么可能又搭上一个妹妹呢？难道说孙权在求婚的时候对吴姑娘是这么说的：你要是嫁人，不要嫁给别人，一定要嫁给我，带着你的嫁妆，领着你的妹妹，赶着马车来？没有这个可能，所以连吴国太这个人都是子虚乌有的，是编出来的。
So I have four comments on this description of “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms”: The first point is that there is nothing in it. The entire story is not recorded in historical records, including the person Wu Guotai. Who is Wu Guotai? According to “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms”, Sun Jian’s mother, Mrs. Wu’s sister, and Mrs. Wu married Sun Jian together. This matter has no historical basis, and I believe it is unlikely in theory. “Because Mrs. Wu’s marriage to Sun Jian was forced, and because Sun Jian’s reputation was not very good when he was young, and the Wu family felt that he was not very good in character, and they were unwilling to marry him. At this time, Miss Wu came out and said, ‘Don’t offend such a powerful person for a small woman, and bring disaster to our family. I married him as a fate. If I married someone else, it would be my fate. The Wu family only married my daughter to Sun Jian,”, How could she possibly catch up with another sister? Could it be said that when Sun Quan proposed to Miss Wu, he said, “If you marry someone, don’t marry anyone else, be sure to marry me, bring your dowry, lead your sister, and drive the carriage?”? “There is no such possibility, so even the person Wu Guotai is a myth, fabricated.”.
第二点，形象不好。在智激周瑜的这个故事里面，周瑜、鲁肃、诸葛亮三个人的形象都不好。一开始是周瑜装腔作势，大唱投降论调。鲁肃和诸葛亮的反映是什么呢？鲁肃愕然，诸葛亮冷笑。鲁肃愕然是有道理的，因为鲁肃知道周瑜的立场，知道周瑜是个主张抗战的，而且周瑜在此之前还跟鲁肃打了个招呼，说子敬你不要着急，我自然有办法的，怎么一见到诸葛亮周瑜就换了一个人呢？他愕然了，但是他应该过过脑子，想一想周瑜这是为什么，他不过脑子，他跟着急，急得不得了，这哪像一个发表过东吴版“隆中对”政治家呢？诸葛亮形象也不好，诸葛亮什么样呢？冷笑，然后就对鲁肃说，子敬啊，你这个人就是死心眼啊，干吗跟我们刘豫州学啊，你看我们刘豫州对抗曹操落个什么下场啊？像公瑾兄多么聪明啊，老婆、孩子也能够保全，荣华富贵也能够保全，什么国家兴亡管他的呢！说这么一番话这像诸葛亮吗？
Second, the image is not good. In the story of Zhiji Zhou Yu, the image of Zhou Yu, Lu Su, and Zhuge Liang is not good. At first, Zhou Yu put on airs and sang loudly about surrender. What was the reaction of Lu Su and Zhuge Liang? Lu Su was shocked and Zhuge Liang sneered. Lu Su’s astonishment was reasonable, because Lu Su knew Zhou Yu’s position and that Zhou Yu was a proponent of the War of Resistance. Before that, Zhou Yu also greeted Lu Su and said, “Don’t worry, Zi Jing. I naturally have a way. How can I change someone as soon as I see Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu?”? “He was stunned, but he should have taken a moment to think about Zhou Yu’s reasons. He’s just a brain, he’s in a hurry, and he’s in such a hurry. How could this be like a politician who published the Soochow version of” Long Zhong Pai “?”? Zhuge Liang’s image is also not good. What about Zhuge Liang? “After sneering, he said to Lu Su, ‘Zi Jing, you’re just a dead-hearted person. Why do you want to learn from us in Liu Yuzhou? What do you think will happen when we fight Cao Cao in Liu Yuzhou?'”? How clever Brother Gongjin is! His wife and children can be preserved, and his wealth and honor can also be preserved. What country cares about his rise and fall! Does it sound like Zhuge Liang to say such a thing?
第三点就是没有必要。我们要知道鲁肃为什么建议孙权召回周瑜，就因为周瑜是铁杆鹰派。周瑜这个铁杆鹰派不是这一次才表现出来的，建安七年的时候，袁绍病死了，袁绍病死了以后袁氏家族就衰落了，曹操这个时候气就粗了，那就写封信给孙权，要他送一个人到曹操这儿来做人质，就是质子，当时孙权接到这封信以后也是拿不定主意，而张昭这些人好像哼哼叽叽的，意思就是那就送吧，曹操咱得罪不起啊。谁反对？周瑜，周瑜慷慨陈辞，告诉孙权，不要送你的子弟了去做什么人质，态度非常强硬和明朗。也就是在这一回，孙权的母亲吴夫人对孙权说，公瑾比伯符——就是孙策——只小一个月，你要按照对兄长的这样一个态度和礼节去对待公瑾。所以周瑜是一个什么人是很清楚的，或者有人要问，说周瑜以前是鹰派，这回难道就不能改成鸽派吗？以前是主战派，难道这回他就不会动摇动摇变成投降派了吗？不可能。
The third point is that it is not necessary. We need to know why Lu Su suggested Sun Quan recall Zhou Yu because Zhou Yu is a diehard hawk. “Zhou Yu, a diehard hawk, was not shown this time. In the seventh year of Jian’an, Yuan Shao died of illness. After Yuan Shao’s death, the Yuan family declined. Cao Cao became angry at this time, so he wrote a letter to Sun Quan asking him to send a person to Cao Cao as a hostage, that is, Proton. At that time, Sun Quan was also uncertain after receiving this letter, and Zhang Zhao and other people seemed to groan, meaning, ‘Send it,'”, Cao Cao, we can’t afford to offend you. Who objects? Zhou Yu, Zhou Yu made a generous statement and told Sun Quan not to send your children as hostages. His attitude was very strong and clear. This time, Sun Quan’s mother, Mrs. Wu, said to Sun Quan, “Gong Jin is only one month younger than Bo Fu, that is, Sun Ce. You should treat Gong Jin according to the attitude and etiquette you have towards your brother.”. So it’s very clear who Zhou Yu is, or someone might ask, “Zhou Yu used to be a hawk, can’t we change to a dove this time?”? Formerly a warlike faction, won’t he waver and become a capitulatory faction this time? impossible.
为什么呢？因为周瑜的这个态度，他不是一时的冲动。周瑜和孙氏集团是一个什么关系呢？第一，周瑜是孙策的铁哥们儿。《三国志·周瑜传》上头说法是“独相友善”，就是当年周瑜和孙策两个人同龄，孙策大一个月嘛，从小在一块长大，而且就是他们两个关系最好，这是第一点。第二点，孙策后来接过了他父亲孙坚的班，也是依靠袁术的，而袁术对于孙策出尔反尔，一再封官许愿，又一再地变卦，孙策看见自己在袁术那儿没有发展，独立出来发展。这个时候是周瑜将兵迎策，周瑜带着自己的人马去接应孙策，这是第二点。第三点，孙策去逝以后，孙权接班，又是周瑜带头拥护孙权。当时孙权还是一个将军，就是孙权和张昭以及其他人包括和周瑜这些人的关系，不能叫做君臣关系，只能叫上下级关系，但是周瑜带头行君臣礼。第四点，就是周瑜不但自己忠于孙氏家族，而且还拉来了一个鲁肃，鲁肃投奔孙权是周瑜的推荐和劝说。所以周瑜和孙权，和孙家是个什么关系呢？就像诸葛亮和刘备的关系，那是拆不散的，那是铁得很，那么他不可能转变立场，他一定是站在孙权的立场上来考虑这个问题，所以叫做没有必要来智激一下。
Why? Because of Zhou Yu’s attitude, he is not a momentary impulse. What is the relationship between Zhou Yu and the Sun Group? First, Zhou Yu is Sun Ce’s iron buddy. “The legend of Zhou Yu in the Three Kingdoms Annals states that Zhou Yu and Sun Ce were both of the same age, and Sun Ce was a month old. They grew up together when they were young, and the relationship between them was the best. This is the first point.”. Secondly, Sun Ce later took over the position of his father Sun Jian and relied on Yuan Shu. Yuan Shu contradicted Sun Ce, repeatedly making promises, and repeatedly reneging. Sun Ce saw that he had not developed with Yuan Shu, and he developed independently. At this time, it was Zhou Yu’s general who welcomed Sun Ce, and Zhou Yu took his men to meet Sun Ce. This was the second point. Thirdly, after Sun Ce’s death, Sun Quan took over, and it was Zhou Yu who took the lead in supporting Sun Quan. At that time, Sun Quan was still a general, and the relationship between Sun Quan and Zhang Zhao, as well as other people, including Zhou Yu, could not be called a relationship between monarchs and ministers, but only a relationship between superiors and subordinates. However, Zhou Yu took the lead in carrying out the ceremony of monarchs and ministers. The fourth point is that Zhou Yu not only remained loyal to the Sun family, but also brought in a Lu Su. Lu Su’s defection to Sun Quan was recommended and persuaded by Zhou Yu. So what is the relationship between Zhou Yu and Sun Quan, and the Sun family? Just like the relationship between Zhuge Liang and Liu Bei, it cannot be separated, and it is very ironclad. Therefore, it is impossible for him to change his position. He must have considered this issue from Sun Quan’s position, so it is unnecessary to give intellectual stimulation.
第四点就是并无可能。我们看看《三国演义》怎么交待，《三国演义》是说周瑜大唱投降论调，诸葛亮说那我有一个好办法，就是一仗也不用打，只要一条船就够了，一条船两个人，周瑜问他哪两个人，大乔、小乔啊，如何如何。周瑜这才勃然大怒，我与老贼什么势不两立之类的，老贼欺人太甚等等。然后周瑜说其实我早就是主张对抗曹操的，刚才我说要投降是试探，算是把这个场就圆过去了。
那我们就来看试探，这个试探有没有必要？为什么要试探？按照《三国演义》的说法，周瑜这个人小心眼，气量狭窄啊，他信不过诸葛亮，他得试探一下啊。但是我们不能光讲性格，我们还要讲道理啊，从道理上讲，荆州集团或者说刘氏集团，和江东集团或者说孙氏集团，那是世仇，本来是敌人；本来是敌人，现在要联合起来了，是要试探一下，不要说本来是敌人，就是素不相识的人或者从来没有关系的两个集团、两个企业要合作一把，也得试探一下是不是。但是既然要试探，第一这个试探应该是双向的，双方都要试探一下，诸葛亮为什么不试探？因为他既第一没有必要，也没有可能去试探，这个时候已经走投无路，除了联合孙权没有别的选择，试什么探呢？所以诸葛亮不试探，他不试探孙权，他不试探周瑜，他不试探鲁肃，他只是极力地进行说明的工作。那么既然诸葛亮用不着试探，周瑜这边也用不着试探，你试探他什么？就是你不能为试探为试探，你试探要有内容，你试探他什么？立场，态度，诚意？根本不成问题，完全用不着试探，所以这也是没有必要。
The fourth point is that there is no possibility. Let’s take a look at the explanation in “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms”. “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms” refers to Zhou Yu singing loudly about surrender. Zhuge Liang said that I have a good idea, that is, I don’t need to fight a war. Just one boat is enough. One boat has two people. Zhou Yu asked him which two people are there, Big Joe and Little Joe, and how about it. Zhou Yu just flew into a rage. What are we at odds with the old thief? The old thief bullied others too much, and so on. Then Zhou Yu said that in fact, I had long advocated confronting Cao Cao. Just now, when I said that I wanted to surrender, it was a test, which was to round off the situation.
Let’s take a look at the temptation. Is this temptation necessary? Why try? According to “The Romance of the Three Kingdoms”, Zhou Yu is cautious and narrow-minded. He can’t trust Zhuge Liang, so he needs to give it a try. “But we can’t just talk about character, we should also talk about reason. In principle, the Jingzhou Group or the Liu Group, and the Jiangdong Group or the Sun Group are enemies of the world. They are originally enemies;”; “Originally an enemy, but now we need to unite, we need to test it, not to mention that we were originally enemies, even if we want to cooperate with two groups or enterprises that have never known each other or had any relationship with each other, we also need to test it.”. But since there is a temptation, the first temptation should be two-way, and both sides should try it out. Why doesn’t Zhuge Liang try? “Because he has neither the need nor the possibility to explore first, he has no choice but to unite with Sun Quan at this time. What exploration should he try?”? So Zhuge Liang doesn’t try, he doesn’t try Sun Quan, he doesn’t try Zhou Yu, he doesn’t try Lu Su, he just tries his best to explain. So since Zhuge Liang doesn’t need to test, and Zhou Yu doesn’t need to test either, what are you testing him for? “You cannot be a temptation for temptation. Your temptation must have content. What do you want to test him for?”? Position, attitude, sincerity? “It’s not a problem at all, and there’s no need to test it, so it’s also unnecessary.”.
因为周瑜的这个立场、这个观点、这个态度鲁肃是知道的，这才建议孙权召回周瑜。如果周瑜和张昭一样是个投降派，鲁肃是不会提出这个建议的，那不是给自己找麻烦吗？又弄一个反对派过来，没事找事啊。那么鲁肃知道，诸葛亮知道不知道呢？应该知道，为什么？诸葛亮是未出隆中已知三分，他连天下将来三分他都知道，他不知道周瑜是什么人？诸葛亮能够在隆中做出那样一个对策，说明他对江东集团是非常了解的，他掌握了大量的情况，那么就包括江东集团的这样一个重要的人物，你不可能说江东集团的事情诸葛亮都知道他就是不知道周瑜吧，因此说智激周瑜完全没有必要。
＊智激周瑜是反映周瑜心胸狭窄、神化诸葛亮智慧的一个故事，这个故事虽然在民间广为流传，然而在历史上却不曾发生过。而且通过易中天先生的分析，我们也发现，智激周瑜在逻辑上也是站不住脚的。那么历史上的周瑜主战究竟是怎样一个过程呢？他最后是如何一锤定音，打动孙权主战的呢？
Because Lu Su was aware of Zhou Yu’s position, viewpoint, and attitude, it was recommended that Sun Quan recall Zhou Yu. If Zhou Yu were a capitulator like Zhang Zhao, Lu Su would not have proposed this. Isn’t that causing trouble for himself? Bring another opposition here. It’s okay to make trouble. So does Lu Su know and Zhuge Liang know? You should know why? Zhuge Liang knows three parts of the world before he leaves Longzhong. He even knows three parts of the world in the future. He doesn’t know who Zhou Yu is? “Zhuge Liang’s ability to make such a response in Longzhong shows that he knows Jiangdong Group very well, and he has a lot of information. So, including such an important figure in Jiangdong Group, it is impossible to say that Zhuge Liang knows everything about Jiangdong Group that he does not know Zhou Yu, right? Therefore, it is completely unnecessary to say that Zhou Yu is intellectually motivated.”.
“Intelligence Stimulation” is a story that reflects Zhou Yu’s narrow mind and deification of Zhuge Liang’s wisdom. Although this story is widely circulated among the people, it has never happened in history. Moreover, through Mr. Yi Zhongtian’s analysis, we also found that intellectually motivated Zhou Yu was also logically untenable. So what was the process of Zhou Yu’s main battle in history? How did he finally set the tone and impress Sun Quan in the main battle?
实际情况是周瑜被从去鄱阳的路上召回到柴桑以后，孙权又召开了一次会议，那么会上周瑜态度非常明朗，而且周瑜的话可以说是掷地有声、大义凛然，表现出他一个中流砥柱的英雄本色。周瑜怎么说的呢？周瑜说曹操虽托名汉相，其实汉贼；将军您神武雄才，又有父兄的英烈，现在据有江东人多势众，大家同心同德完全可以对抗曹操；我们江东要做的事情是横行天下，为汉家除残去秽，我们怎么可以投降曹操呢？何况曹操自己来送死，难道还有投降的道理吗？
那么这一段话也是说得充满了正义感，这个和诸葛亮回答孙权的问话，问刘豫州为什么不投降曹操，诸葛亮那个回答是一样的，是一样的，都说得非常正义。而且这两番话，诸葛亮的话、周瑜的这个话都是必要的，因为我们知道战争是政治斗争的延续，对于战争来说正义是非常重要的，你只有政治上正确，那么你的军队才是正义之师，才有克敌制胜的可能。所以这个时候周瑜一定要说这番话，诸葛亮前面也一定要说那番话，鼓舞自己的斗志。但问题是政治上的正确不等于军事上的可行，而投降派的意见也不能说没有道理，投降派是什么意见呢？投降派的意见有三条：第一条，曹公豺虎也，就是曹操本来就是豺狼虎豹，本来我们就敌不过他，他力量强大，这是第一点。第二点，它的原话是“挟天子以征四方，动以朝廷为辞”，曹操是以朝廷的名义来发动这场战争，我们又不如他。第三点，我们可以对抗曹操的是什么呢？长江天险。但是现在曹操已经拿下了荆州，获得了刘表留在江陵的军需物资和刘表留下的水军，这样一来长江天险就是曹操和我们共有的了，我们既不得天时，也不得地利，怎么能够对抗曹操呢？
The actual situation is that after Zhou Yu was recalled to Chaisang on the way to Poyang, Sun Quan held a meeting again. At the meeting, Zhou Yu’s attitude was very clear, and Zhou Yu’s words can be said to be resounding and resolute, demonstrating his heroic qualities as a mainstay. What did Zhou Yu say? Zhou Yu said that although Cao Cao gave his name to Han Xiang, he was actually a Han thief; General, you are a powerful and talented person, and you have the heroes of your father and brother. Now, there are many people in Jiangdong, and everyone can fight against Cao Cao with one heart and one mind; The thing we need to do in Jiangdong is to roam the world and clean up the Han family. How can we surrender to Cao Cao? Besides, Cao Cao himself came to die. Is there any reason for surrender?
So this passage is also full of a sense of justice. This is the same as Zhuge Liang’s answer to Sun Quan’s question, asking Liu Yuzhou why he didn’t surrender to Cao Cao. Zhuge Liang’s answer was the same, the same, and both spoke very justly. Moreover, these two statements, those of Zhuge Liang and those of Zhou Yu, are necessary because we know that war is the continuation of political struggle, and justice is very important for war. Only if you are politically correct, can your army be a righteous force and have the possibility of defeating the enemy. Therefore, Zhou Yu must say this at this time, and Zhuge Liang must also say that in front of him to inspire his own fighting spirit. The problem is that political correctness does not equal military feasibility, and the views of the capitulators cannot be said to be unreasonable. What is the opinion of the capitulators? The capitulators have three opinions: The first is that the Duke of Cao is a jackal, a tiger, and a leopard. We cannot defeat him, and he is powerful. This is the first point. The second point is that its original phrase is “coerce the emperor to invade the four directions, and use the imperial court as a pretext.” Cao Cao launched this war in the name of the imperial court, and we are not as good as him. Third, what can we fight against Cao Cao? Yangtze River Natural Danger. But now that Cao Cao has taken Jingzhou and obtained the military supplies left by Liu Biao in Jiangling and the water army left by Liu Biao, the natural danger of the Yangtze River is shared by Cao Cao and us. We have neither the timing nor the geographical advantage. How can we defeat Cao Cao?
那么针对这个观点，周瑜提出四点意见，这四点周瑜认为是曹操的大忌。哪四点呢？第一点：本土未安，后患未除，贸然南下。你自己内部都还没有搞清楚，西边还有什么马腾、马超、韩遂啊，什么张鲁七七八八这些人，你就贸然地来进攻，太冒险。第二点：放弃鞍马，使用舰船，舍长就短。你北方的军队本来就是骑兵、步兵，比南方的厉害，南方厉害在水军。本来做一件事情应该是扬长避短，你反着来，这是第二点。第三点：天寒地冻，马无草料，给养不足，你时间选得不对。因为根据我们的琢磨，曹操和孙刘联军的赤壁之战应该是在建安十三年的十二月，那么他打过来的时候可能是十一月，这个时间你选得不对。第四点：劳师远征，水土不服，必生疾病。周瑜指出了曹操这次用兵的四大弊端，然后说他这四大弊端都是兵家的大忌，而老贼一条不落地全都犯了，因此他对孙权说：主公，依周瑜看活捉此贼就在今日，请将军给周瑜三万精兵，看周瑜大破曹军。
In response to this point of view, Zhou Yu proposed four suggestions, which Zhou Yu believed were Cao Cao’s great taboos. Which four points? The first point: If the local territory is not secure, and future disasters are not eliminated, we will rush southward. “You haven’t made it clear within yourself. What other people are there in the west, such as Ma Teng, Ma Chao, Han Sui, and Zhang Lu 7788, so you can attack hastily. It’s too risky.”. Second point: Give up the Pommeled Horse and use the ship. Your army in the north is originally cavalry and infantry, which are more powerful than those in the south. The south is more powerful than the water army. Originally, doing one thing should be promoting strengths and avoiding weaknesses, but you should do the opposite. This is the second point. Third point: The weather is freezing, the horse has no fodder, and the supplies are insufficient. You chose the wrong time. Because according to our thinking, the battle of the Red Cliff between Cao Cao and Sun Liu’s allied forces should have been in December of the 13th year of Jian’an, so the time he fought might have been November, and you chose the wrong time. The fourth point: Labor expedition, acclimatization, will inevitably lead to disease. Zhou Yu pointed out the four major drawbacks of Cao Cao’s current use of force, and then said that these four drawbacks were all taboos of strategists, while the old thief committed all of them without landing. Therefore, he said to Sun Quan, “Lord, in Zhou Yu’s opinion, capturing this thief alive is today. Please give Zhou Yu 30000 elite soldiers to watch Zhou Yu defeat the Cao army.”.
周瑜的这番话和诸葛亮英雄所见略同，诸葛亮在回答孙权曹操是否可以战胜的时候，也指出曹操的三大弊端，哪三大弊端呢？第一点是劳师远征，这个和周瑜说的一样。而且诸葛亮说曹操以一天一夜三百里的速度追赶刘豫州，一路追追追追到这个地方来的时候，已经成了强弩之末了，没有战斗力了，这是对的。第二点，诸葛亮也指出曹操不使用步兵，使用水兵是舍长就短。诸葛亮有一条说得和周瑜不一样，我觉得也非常正确，就是诸葛亮指出刘表刚刚投降曹操的那些人是摇摆的，是和曹操离心离德的，曹操这样拿下荆州人心不服，他缺乏民心的这样的一个基础，那么这就是诸葛亮作为政治家他和周瑜的不同地方，他看到这一点了。总而言之，他们两个人英雄所见略同，都认为曹操是没有那么可怕，没有那么恐怖。也就是说诸葛亮和周瑜两个人一起粉碎了曹操不可战胜的神话，这样一来孙权完全有底了，于是孙权正式表态，他说：“老贼欲废汉自立久矣”，这老贼早就想颠覆我们大汉王朝了，他为什么没有这样做呢，他忌讳的就是这样几个人，袁绍、袁术、吕布、刘表还有孤，现在群雄都已经没有了，剩下的就是孤了，那么很简单，孤与老贼势不两立。然后“唰”地一声，拨出刀来“啪”，砍断了案角，谁再敢说投降曹操的，这个就是他的榜样。注意，孙权的用词不是曹公，是老贼，那么他使用这个词的时候，说明他已经下定了决心。
Zhou Yu’s words are similar to those of Zhuge Liang’s heroes. When Zhuge Liang answered whether Sun Quan and Cao Cao could be defeated, he also pointed out the three major drawbacks of Cao Cao. Which three drawbacks? The first point is the labor expedition, which is the same as what Zhou Yu said. And Zhuge Liang said that Cao Cao chased Liu Yuzhou at a speed of 300 miles a day and a night, and by the time he chased him all the way to this place, he was already at the end of his tether and had no combat power. This was right. Secondly, Zhuge Liang also pointed out that Cao Cao did not use infantry, and the use of sailors was short of the length of the house. One thing that Zhuge Liang said is different from Zhou Yu, and I think it’s also very correct. Zhuge Liang pointed out that the people who had just surrendered to Cao Cao by Liu Biao were wavering and estranged from Cao Cao. Cao Cao was not convinced that he had won Jingzhou in this way, and he lacked such a foundation of popular support. This is the difference between Zhuge Liang as a politician and Zhou Yu, and he saw this. In a word, both of them have the same heroic ideas, and both believe that Cao Cao is not so terrible, not so terrible. That is to say, Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu together smashed the myth of Cao Cao’s invincibility, which made Sun Quan completely confident. Therefore, Sun Quan officially stated, “The old thief has long wanted to abolish the Han Dynasty and stand on his own feet.” This old thief has long wanted to overthrow our Han Dynasty. Why didn’t he do this? What he taboos are these few people, Yuan Shao, Yuan Shu, Lv Bu, Liu Biao, and Gu, who are now gone, The rest is loneliness, so it’s very simple, loneliness and the old thief are irreconcilable. Then, with a “shua” sound, he pulled out his knife and cut off the corner of the case. Anyone who dares to surrender to Cao Cao again is his example. Note that Sun Quan’s word is not Cao Gong, but an old thief. When he uses this word, it indicates that he has made up his mind.
