第二种说法叫做记恨,孙权记恨张昭,为什么记恨张昭?因为赤壁之战的时候张昭是主张投降的啊,而且我们也讲过这个事故啊,孙权称帝的时候,讲这都是周公瑾的功劳啊,张昭也站起来准备发表一番歌功颂德的言论,孙权把他止住说张公你就算了啊,联当年要是听了你的话,现在已经讨饭去了,记恨他,而且逻辑上也讲得通嘛,对不对,联如果投降了曹操,有皇帝当吗?没有皇帝当,联当不上皇帝你能成丞相吗?也当不上对不对,既然你原本就是当不上丞相的,这回也不要当嘛,但是这种事情你一次就够了啊,你要羞辱他一下或者报复一下一次就够了,有人说其实这个不是记恨,是个立场问题说孙权怀疑张昭立场不坚定,其实这个也不必,因为赤壁之战以后,曹操曾经给孙权写了一封信讲条件,说如果你把张昭和刘备杀了如何如何,如果你舍不得杀张昭,光杀刘备也行,那曹操把张昭列入了他的黑名单就等于证明张昭对你孙权来说是立场坚定的嘛,凡事敌人拥护的咱们就要反对吗,所以这个恐怕也不通。
第三种说法呢,说孙权不是记恨,是忌惮,是怕张昭,陈寿就有这个说法,陈寿说张昭不能当丞相是“以严见惮,以高见外”,就是张昭这个人太严厉了,所以孙权害怕他,张昭这个人太高尚了,所以孙权疏远他,这个也有证据。我们知道孙权接班以后,是以师傅之礼为对待张昭的,也就是把张昭当老师的,既当叔也当老师,张昭呢也当仁不让,你既然把我当老师,我就要有个老师的样子,我就管你,孙权呢其它是一个很英武的人,他喜欢打猎,经常是亲自骑着一匹马就出去打猎射老虎,还发生了什么事情呢?发生老虎的前爪抓住了孙权的马鞍很危险,这个时候张昭就去挡横,张昭说一个做君王的驾驭的应该是英雄而不是骏马,对付的应该是敌人而不是野兽,这不是一个仁君该做的事情,孙权说:不好意思嘛,年轻吗,不懂事吗,我下回不了,好吧。
The second expression is called hatred. Sun Quan hates Zhang Zhao. Why does he hate Zhang Zhao? “Because during the Battle of Chibi, Zhang Zhao advocated surrender, and we have also talked about this incident. When Sun Quan proclaimed himself emperor, he said it was Zhou Gongjin’s credit. Zhang Zhao also stood up and prepared to make a speech praising his merits. Sun Quan stopped him and said, ‘Zhang Gongyou are not worth it.’ If Lian had listened to your words, he would have begged and hated him now, and logically it would have made sense, right?”, If Lian surrenders to Cao Cao, will there be an emperor? Without an emperor, you can’t become a prime minister without being an emperor? “You can’t be a prime minister, right? Since you weren’t supposed to be a prime minister, you shouldn’t be a prime minister this time, but it’s enough for you to humiliate him or retaliate once. Some people say that this is not actually a matter of resentment, it’s a matter of position. Sun Quanhuai suspects that Zhang Zhaoli is not firm, but it’s not necessary because after the Battle of Chibi, Cao Cao once wrote a letter to Sun Quan setting conditions,”, How about if you kill Zhang Zhao and Liu Bei? If you can’t bear to kill Zhang Zhao, just kill Liu Bei, then Cao Cao’s inclusion of Zhang Zhao in his blacklist is tantamount to proving that Zhang Zhao is a firm stand for your Sun Quan, and that we should oppose everything the enemy supports, so this probably won’t work.
The third statement is that Sun Quan does not hold grudges, but fears Zhang Zhao. Chen Shou has this statement. Chen Shou said that Zhang Zhao cannot become a prime minister by “being strict and seeing fear from others with high standards.” This is because Zhang Zhao is too strict, so Sun Quan is afraid of him. Zhang Zhao is too noble, so Sun Quan alienates him. There is also evidence for this. We know that after Sun Quan took over, he treated Zhang Zhao with the courtesy of his master, that is, he treated Zhang Zhao as a teacher, both as an uncle and as a teacher, and Zhang Zhao was also merciful. Since you treat me as a teacher, I need to look like a teacher, and I’ll take care of you. Sun Quan and the others are a very brave person, who likes hunting and often goes out hunting and shooting tigers on his own while riding a horse. What else has happened? “When a tiger’s front paw caught Sun Quan’s saddle, it was very dangerous. At this moment, Zhang Zhao went to block it. Zhang Zhao said that a king should be driven by heroes rather than horses, and should be dealt with by enemies rather than beasts. This is not something a benevolent king should do. Sun Quan said, ‘Excuse me, are you young, are you not sensible? I can’t do it next time, okay.'”.
孙权是不骑马打老虎了,改坐车,孙权发明了一个车子射虎车,自己坐在车子里面,拿着箭还是射,就这样还有老虎或者别的猛兽扑到车子上来,孙权亲自去杀这些猛兽,很高兴,很开心,张昭一看这怎么又,这老头子又去唠叨他,你这样不对,做仁君不能这样子,也就是这些道理,这时候孙权就只笑不答了,笑一笑不回答,照做。在这里我们也看出来孙权和张昭他们这种家庭感,是不是有家庭感,在这个故事里面张昭象个婆婆妈妈的大叔,孙权象个调皮捣蛋的侄子,就这么个感觉,这个唠唠叨叨没完没了,你出门多加件衣服,天冷,被子有没有盖好啊,这个老蹬被子,就这种感觉,这也没有什么,我们经常也看到大管家管着那个小少爷,有这种事,但是你要知道这个人他是要变的,第一这个侄子他要长大的,而且他越做越大,他做到皇帝的,等他越做越大做到吴王,做到皇帝,你还是个唠唠叨叨的大叔,这个时候就不灵了吧,问题是张昭他不变啊。
应该是孙权称吴王之后,有一次在武昌钓鱼台,我再说一遍,武昌就是现在湖北省鄂州,鄂州是临长江的,江上有一个钓鱼台,不是咱那个钓鱼台国宾馆啊,孙权在那儿搞了个钓鱼台宴会厅,有天晚上大宴群臣,所有人都喝得七歪八倒,孙权大醉看大家都歪倒在这个地方,说来人啊,往他们脸上洒水,洒冷水,把他们弄起来,来来来,继续喝,今天非得有个人从台上掉下去才行,那才算喝好了,张昭听了这个话以后脸一拉,一句话不说,出门到他那“宝马”车上坐着生闷气,孙权想张昭呢?说张昭回他他那“宝马”车上去了,正在生气呢,孙权说哎呀,张公啊,今天晚上不是很快乐吗?干嘛呢?生什么气啊?张昭坐着:快乐,很快乐,告诉你说当年殷纣王把酒糟堆成山,把美酒做成池子,整天整天,整夜整夜地喝酒他也说很快乐,他没说不快乐。孙权没有办法:好,散会散会。这个实际上让孙权扫兴的,所以孙权第二次解释他为什么不任命张昭做丞相的时候,孙权就说得很清楚:大家知道丞相这个职务的重要性,而且丞相这个职务是要跟所有人联系的,此公性刚,这位老人家这个性子太刚烈了,当了丞相,人家肯定要提建议,提意见,要建言献策,参政议政,对不对,这些意见如果他多半是不会接受的,因为他刚啊,他刚愎啊,他不接受大家的意见,最后还不是弄得怨声载道,还不是弄得麻烦很多,这不是害了张公吗?从这个角度来说,张昭这个人不合适当丞相,但是我们要问,孙权选的那个孙邵他就合适吗?
Sun Quan decided not to ride a horse to fight a tiger, but instead to ride a car. Sun Quan invented a car to shoot a tiger. He sat in the car, holding an arrow or shooting, and so there were tigers or other fierce beasts rushing onto the car. Sun Quan personally went to kill these fierce beasts, very happy and happy. Zhang Zhao looked at this, and the old man went to nag him again. If you’re wrong, being a benevolent gentleman can’t be like this, which is why, At this point, Sun Quan just smiled and didn’t answer. He smiled and didn’t answer, so he did. Here, we can also see whether Sun Quan and Zhang Zhao have a sense of family. In this story, Zhang Zhao is like a motherly uncle, and Sun Quan is like a mischievous nephew. This nagging is endless. When you go out, add more clothes. Is the weather cold and the quilt covered properly? This old quilt is just like this feeling, and it’s nothing, We often see that the big butler is in charge of the young master, and there are such things. However, you need to know that this person is going to change. First, this nephew is going to grow up, and as he grows older, he will become the emperor. When he grows older, he will become the King of Wu, and become the emperor. You are still a nagging uncle, and at this time it will not work. The problem is that Zhang Zhao remains the same.
After Sun Quan became King of Wu, there was a time at the Diaoyutai in Wuchang. I repeat, Wuchang is now Ezhou in Hubei Province, which faces the Yangtze River. There is a Diaoyutai on the river, not our Diaoyutai State Guesthouse. Sun Quan held a Diaoyutai banquet hall there. One night, all the ministers drank at a banquet, and everyone fell over their heads. Sun Quan was so drunk that everyone fell over in this place. Speaking of people, sprinkle water on their faces, Sprinkle cold water, get them up, come on, continue drinking. Today, someone must fall off the stage to be considered a good drink. After hearing this, Zhang Zhao pulled his face and didn’t say a word. He went out and sat in his “BMW” car sulking. What did Sun Quan think of Zhang Zhao? Saying that Zhang Zhao went back to his “BMW” car and was angry, Sun Quan said, “Oh, Zhang Gong, aren’t you very happy tonight?”? What are you doing? Why are you angry? Zhang Zhao sat down and said, “Happy, very happy. I tell you that when King Zhou of Yin piled up distillers’ grains into mountains and made fine wine into ponds, he drank all day and all night long. He also said he was happy, but he didn’t say he was unhappy.”. Sun Quan couldn’t help it: Okay, let’s break up the meeting. This actually dampened Sun Quan’s spirits, so when Sun Quan explained for the second time why he didn’t appoint Zhang Zhao as prime minister, Sun Quan made it very clear: Everyone knows the importance of the position of prime minister, and the position of prime minister is to contact everyone. This male character is rigid, and this old man is too strong in temperament. When he became prime minister, others must make suggestions, suggestions, suggestions, and participate in politics, right, “Most of these opinions would not be accepted by him, because he was just, he was headstrong, and he didn’t accept everyone’s opinions. In the end, he made a lot of complaints and trouble, which didn’t harm Mr. Zhang?”? From this perspective, Zhang Zhao is not suitable for being prime minister, but we have to ask, is Sun Shao the one Sun Quan chose suitable?
画外音:根据前面易中天先生的分析,在张昭能不能当丞相这个问题上孙权给出的解释是张昭尽管水平很高,能力很强,功劳很大,但此人言行举止过于威严,性格过于刚烈,容易惹麻烦、遭抱怨,因此张昭的丞相之路就此打住,孙权任命了一个叫孙邵的担任东吴的第一位丞相,那么孙邵是何许人也?他难道比张昭更适合这个丞相之位吗?
好象也不合适,孙邵这个人我们知道是在《三国志》里面连传都没有的,第一任丞相连个传都留不下来,可见他没干什么事,我估计他就是没干什么事。那么孙权为什么选他呢,因此有第四种观点,就是孙权选择的第一任丞相原本就是个摆设,原本就不打算用一个什么相才来担任,关于这个问题田余庆先生是谈过的,田余庆先生在谈到张昭为什么没有当丞相的时候他说一方面张昭这个人一直是不直接主事的,就是从来没有直接管过事的,另一方面孙权这个人一直是大权在握的,就是说根据田先生的研究张昭这个人的重要性也没有我们想的那么大,前期他是很重要的,慢慢地,慢慢地,他就不直接管事了,但是我们就会问了既然张昭原本就不那么重要,孙权又不希望他的丞相重要,那么用张昭这个原本并不重要的去当那个并不希望重要的丞相那不是很合适吗?这又怎么解释呢?解释很简单,就是张昭不很重要,是因为他不直接主事,他没管事,他一管事他就重要了,他一当丞相他就管事嘛,他一管事他就重要,他一重要就变成什么结果呢?
Voice over: According to the previous analysis by Mr. Yi Zhongtian, Sun Quan’s explanation on the question of whether Zhang Zhao can become prime minister is that despite Zhang Zhao’s high level, strong abilities, and great contributions, his words and deeds are too dignified, his personality is too strong, and he is prone to trouble and resentment. Therefore, Zhang Zhao’s path to prime minister has been stopped. Sun Quan appointed a person named Sun Shao as the first prime minister of the Eastern Wu Dynasty. Who is Sun Shao? Is he more suitable for the position of prime minister than Zhang Zhao?
It doesn’t seem appropriate either. We know that Sun Shao didn’t even have a biography in the “Three Kingdoms Annals”, and the first Prime Minister couldn’t keep a biography. It can be seen that he didn’t do anything. I guess he just didn’t do anything. So why did Sun Quan choose him? Therefore, there is a fourth point of view. The first prime minister Sun Quan chose was originally a decoration, and he did not intend to use a suitable person to serve as a prime minister. Mr. Tian Yuqing has talked about this issue. When Mr. Tian Yuqing talked about why Zhang Zhao did not become a prime minister, he said that on the one hand, Zhang Zhao has always been a person who did not directly take charge, that is, he has never directly taken charge of matters, On the other hand, Sun Quan has always been in power, which means that according to Mr. Tian’s research, Zhang Zhao is not as important as we thought. In the early stage, he was very important. Slowly, slowly, he did not directly take charge, but we would ask, since Zhang Zhao was originally not so important, Sun Quan did not want his prime minister to be important, Isn’t it very appropriate to use Zhang Zhao, who was not originally important, as the prime minister who didn’t want to be important? How can this be explained? The explanation is simple, but Zhang Zhao is not very important because he is not directly in charge. He is not in charge. As soon as he is in charge, he becomes important. As soon as he becomes prime minister, he becomes important. What happens when he becomes important?